醫聲論壇

一條鼻胃管勒死三位醫師

辜且不論鼻胃管和變成植物人的關係, 但想說的是 standard procedure 不見得會有 standard result.

任何"簡單"的procedure, 都得注意.

當然我不是在說該案件本身啦.

法官勉強把鼻胃管和植物人連在一起
不少學院派 醫界大老 已經進一步提供實質理由 (壓力)
管它三五千萬 主治醫師已經60歲 換做是我 一毛錢都不會給 (爽)

Nicholas 寫:法官勉強把鼻胃管和植物人連在一起
不少學院派 醫界大老 已經進一步提供實質理由 (壓力)
管它三五千萬 主治醫師已經60歲 換做是我 一毛錢都不會給 (爽)

+1
國賠可，但要醫生付3000萬太不合理了，
是自已的醫療疏失摸著鼻子賠就算了，
不是醫療疏失竟要賠3000萬！！
3000萬我花30年也賺不到，
是我一定跟銀行信貸，然後脫產再放給他倒閉，
大不了捉我去關，
錢可是是我理所當然賺來的，
國家都對不起全國醫生了，
為什麼要醫生毀了自已家庭來替國家做善事？

奇怪! 醫界發生這麼嚴重的新聞, 卻不見那些"提倡要有醫德" 的醫界大老講任何一句話 (咦) .

對於司法官來說

醫師就是強勢 民眾就是弱勢 不管民眾有沒有錢 有沒有勢

所以醫師對 給民眾錢叫補償 醫師錯 給民眾錢叫賠償

「有功無賞，打破要賠」這就是我們既定的命運

對醫師來說或許覺得不可思議

對法界人士來說 再熟悉不過

對於人民這端的傾斜是來自於法界的基本原理

所以在我們被認定是人民的對立端之後

這些醫界的災難只怕會越來越多

再加上最近很夯的300萬無責任過失

恐怕未來爭議只會層出不窮

其實楊醫師某個程度上誤解了法官的判決
在 PTT 八卦版上有很精闢的討論
法官的判決是說，其實我們很難弄清楚病人是怎麼變植物人的
也很難確定到底錯誤出在哪裡
但按照醫審會所說，這中間醫院確實有沒有完全考慮周到的地方
所以醫院需要負責
判是判醫院要賠
原告早已放棄對三位醫師提告（應該是律師教的，高招）
（但醫院不曉得會不會跟醫師求償）

法官計算賠償金額的方式也是有按照一定的規則來計算
我認為現在醫界應該爭取的是
就如同醫療行為不適用消保法
醫療過程中的疏失，應該也要用另一種方法來計算賠償方式
否則高風險的科別
以後可能沒什麼人要走

我作夢夢到
醫院賠一半
對3位醫師一人要求賠500萬

roach1971 寫:其實楊醫師某個程度上誤解了法官的判決
在 PTT 八卦版上有很精闢的討論
法官的判決是說，其實我們很難弄清楚病人是怎麼變植物人的
也很難確定到底錯誤出在哪裡
但按照醫審會所說，這中間醫院確實有沒有完全考慮周到的地方
所以醫院需要負責
判是判醫院要賠
原告早已放棄對三位醫師提告（應該是律師教的，高招）
（但醫院不曉得會不會跟醫師求償）

法官計算賠償金額的方式也是有按照一定的規則來計算
我認為現在醫界應該爭取的是
就如同醫療行為不適用消保法
醫療過程中的疏失，應該也要用另一種方法來計算賠償方式
否則高風險的科別
以後可能沒什麼人要走

好像刑事還是有對醫師個人起訴？

2009/05/28 台中地檢署以3名醫師確有疏失，依業務過失傷害罪起訴許博期、徐章虎、陳仁亮3醫師
2010/03/26 民事判決醫院賠償3100萬元，刑事審理中

楊醫師的想法 只是承襲過去的觀念 其實不需苛責
他的說法 在未來的兩個訴訟中 仍是有力的

一為 未宣判之刑事訴訟
一為 可能發生之醫院對三位醫師之民事訴訟

我的看法
三位醫師幾乎無法證明其有過失
刑事上舉證責任在檢方 民事上舉證責任在醫院
刑事上三位醫師應該是無罪
醫院對三位醫師之民事訴訟 三位醫師負責之金額應該要很低
不過第二個訴訟一發生 恐怕醫師要走人

這個案件應該很有可能是以後重大醫療爭議事件解決的雛形

如果加上未來每位醫師300萬的醫責險
醫師的執業風險可大大降低
但是發生重大醫療爭議事件後 能不能繼續平順行醫 則是?

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